11 March 2023

my ex narcissist hasn't contacted me

I was convinced that walking away would somehow make her the winner (we were like rivals at one point). The benign BPD have nothing to do with manipulation etc. He claims it was out of curiosity only and to not get any ideas. He was livid and proceeded to tell me he was done, thats it etc. I tend to think it was an act of self-preservation. So please let me know when you get home and I will call you back. Sometimes they come back to see if they can still mess with your mind but once they see you are on to them and they cant convince you to side with them anymore, they usually slither away. Perhaps you hadnt heard from them in ages, and suddenly the narcissist comes back after months? Then she blocks me, so I cant say anything. We where too close and i was ok with that. I see you are able to understand your Ex cognitivelyalthough the experience has left a stamp on your heart. Then the telephone bill came in for the phone I gave him, here I saw he was communicating with 3 different women plus me. I came across this at a time where I so desperately needed it. Or does he think this well work out for him in the long run? Us having a conversation will not do either of us any good. So I would have to say my ex Narc is gone for good. So u see, ur hope amd faith is a waste. Unfortunately, once you learn none if it was real, you cant help but wonder why you ever trusted them in the first place. After a nice, balanced visit to his city for a few days, I returned home to relate to a very different person. I blocked him from my social media profiles about 2 months ago. I used to wish I was the other woman at first until I fully accepted that my ex was a Narc/Psychopath (diagnosed). I would still like to offer friendship (as I tried for one month), but know thats a one-sided street and really not fair to people I date. Yes, and not for the reasons a normal person would want their ex back. When youre in a relationship with someone and think you can trust them, you might feel comfortable enough to send them nude pictures. So, I demasked him. When I started questioning his hobbies/spendings/ more female friends (I had enough), the devalue followed by discard happened. I f you think your ex is a narcissist, chances are they're probably not. In your situation it must be even harder. They are Masters at the art of manipulation. Im asking because I exposed mine and he has been silent for about 2 years. I keep seeking closure or caring that I know will never come. I put her growing abusive and physical temper down to myself and not being good enough for her. I moved to dayton , ohio met a narcassist named quan i am a widow he sought me out . Think about that before you break NC. over and over. This was just about a month and a half ago. Thank you for your kind comment. That was a month ago. I hit the bottom a few months back and have been at the Choice Point for some time. Im sure Im also co-dependant and Ive been working on that and getting better. Your ex hasn't changed his or her mind about getting . It was not until she text me that her money had come in and she would be sending me the money out ASAP, that she went dormant all of a sudden. I know for sure that that moments are real. Ive supported her through so much, mentally, emotionally, financially and she doesnt seem to remember any of it. Stay strong and thank you all for the advise. How to make a Narcissist Obsessed With You? I dont agree with any of it, its just how Narcissists think. Granted, we spoke on the phone all the time, but you see what I am getting at. They may even have tried to use manipulative techniques to keep us in the relationship, such as threatening to hurt themselves or to hurt us. If this ex returns, it will NOT be good for you, no matter wha. Why? Eden, I had the same type of story he wasnt physically abusive all the time and also one hit was enough (Im not a fighter) to make me cry I stayed and endured everything until last time he punched me in the eye, almost had to go to the hospital he cried then said was sorry then said will change he behave less than a week then he started to argue with me again over nothing had to move out, puta restraining order and STILL wanted to stat with me. He ever felt down, I was there to encourage him, to give him the confidence to do whatever it is he wanted. As a side note, I had a little sexcapade a few days before with a friend, who left a passion mark on my neck and one right where the blouse crisscrossed on my chest that I didnt bother to try to hide. Pathetic I know. We were promised for years what was going to happen at the end even split, but no. Once a strong vivacious Women, now stricken-ed with various illness after being pressed under the thumb for so longI didnt figure it out until he had already stolen so much. Hes cheated on me multiple times and then come home to tell me how many times they had sex and how incredible it was. It also made me less valuable to her, I guess. Then I got the silent treatment, he bought me a birthday gift put it in my back door but still would talk to me. Not to say you (or me in this case) are the problem. Finally Cameron is back with Kym she took him back in the last week. I was too, wondering when that would stop, but I came up with the same conclusion: never! He said all of that in the shop because he wanted to see if he could win you back. She started all this (I obeyed her all the time), but looking back, she was like this my whole life. What a miserable life. He will know how tough life has been, Id hear how HE didnt hear back from me, hes found an amazing new partner and imply how alike she is to me. Narcissists are Narcissists because they have dark personality traits that rarely change for the better. Here are some of the statements you can expect your narcissist ex to make: The narcissist knows full well theyre crazy, and if you left, they know that you know. Anybody with experience having a narc as a friend? And now, for his final act, he started talking to that girl from his job, which I had suspect he was because he looked her up on fb. Im not healed and am still trying to get my head around the fact our entire relationship was a lie. Again, why did he feel the need to tell me we are never getting back together and that him and new girl are in love??? I keep trying to justify his behavior. I get it. Thanks for this post it boils it down so clearly. Thanks and will be posting, asking your opinion. Should I be on my guard. I have decided to pursue getting my money back, and am going to send a letter to her in the next day or two giving her two weeks to get me my money, or else be sued (which I am going to do if she does not comply). Even if you are bisexual and had a relationship with both a male and a female narc and that is why you feel you can compare the damage the woman did to you as worse than what the man did to you, it still doesnt seem fair to say that all women narcs are worse than male narcs and therefore men suffer more damage than woman. What an incredible article. Nothing sets off a narcissist like being ignored and devalued! I dont know if you are one of them who can be treated, but perhaps you are. Like a predator he catches me. I will be stronger than i did before. So true,although I am still not sure whether mine is a narc or BHD,I am still in love with the fantasy and now reality has hit home.He has pushed me around and even made me get out of the car and walk home,miserable and depressed most of the time ans says the most demeaning cruel thing,he now want us to be just friends and have solo holidays,it goes on and on continual devaluation and yet I am still hooked,like a drug addiction!!! Another thing I forgot! HUGS!!! I needed support for the situation with my mother. Where Im from, we call them wolves in sheeps clothing (shudder). Jamie, if I were in your shoes, I would file a restraining order, citing the information you shared here. Thanks for sharing . I am creeving a lost dream. I am trying to encourage a relationship between him and kids. He looked hurt but Im glad I was able to say that to him because it provided closure for me. So, if I was not a narcissistic sociopath, then what am I? That did the trick with my ex. So now i confessed that i miss him to and our love and laughter. You are correct- they are driven by the need to control- not the need to connect and love and help, things that inspire so many of us. I have gone No Contact with her now for a few months but its still very hard. You may feel obsessed with the idea that by going back over every word and action that took place between you, you can see into the future. But, most 17-yr olds I know are bent on learning their own lessons. That I seemed to have bipolar and need help. I kept going back to my feelings and not seeing the reality of what happened to me. I would be hard pressed not to lose it on her..u dont mess with peoples children. I also explained the whole NPD thing to him. And he obviously does it daily because he sees each one I post . Yes, I told him finally a few months after we broke up in an email. It depends on how long you two have been together. Another great one! So, Ive done a lot of reading and digging to figure out what my ex common law was. I am in the very beginning stages of leaving my narcissistic Abuser. This fallout is something I will deal with on a daily basis for the rest of my life and theirs and it breaks my heart. He has nobody to control but his own daughter. Not this time. Get involved in voluntary work Heres whythe reality is that narcissists suffer from mental health issues. wonderful post. I lost contact with all other family members. Im proud to say it worked, i blocked her on social media, blocked her phone number and deleted her from my life, that was 6 months ago. I love having a full-time, personal audience. I think its a mistake to reconnect. I heard he is hurt (really?). Well, I have been no contact now for over 6 months with the occasional letter concerning our daughter. He never got how unwarranted Silent treatments are controlling and disrespectful. This year he attended her birthday celebration with her family although she is out of the country. Its silly but i feel bad. Be genuinely loving. If that happened , all their stories of how you were the crazy monster and them the victim would fall apart before their very eyes . Cara- it sounds like you may be codependent like I am. And every time I think to myself a real narcissist would never apologizewould never admit his frailty. But once I pick him upremind him of his valuetell him I believe in him and see his strengthits only a matter of days or weeks before he finds a reason to fight and the silent treatment begins. I feel so much more calm and serene with him out of my life. I cant make you happy. -An impossible repair as the disagreement gets deeper Finally it is on record. The narcissist has no real identity, only an illusion of themselves built on their ability to control other people. 1. He plays the system well. If you are a loving person it is almost impossible to hate anyone. Yet, how can you be friends with someone who is so evil? After he made me look crazy in October 2016, I now have PTSD. Why? I am so tired. But each time you will find its just a little bit easier to recover. We do that subconsciously in order to correct the unworthy feelings we had as a child, but only, that never happens with a narcissist. Funny enough, that story I truly do not believe period. If you had started dating him again it would not have been long before he would have discarded you again. I think about you constantly and not in an obsessive way but in ways such as I wonder what would think of this? or I wish she could see this. or simply I need her right now. Need. So, I shut him down. My narc called me an alcoholic, bipolar, bad mum etc etc all in front of police whilst he was raging because i have hidden some assets and he tried to get them and they werent here si he called the police. Block him and move on. He told me that I should message her. It took me 6 month to get the truth and within that time I went through the pain of catching her talking on facebook to a guy who she obviously had an affair with while married about how shes never got over him, how great the sex was, how talking to him gave her goosbumps and made her wet. I was just done. There are some signs to look out for that signal a narcissist is coming to the 'discard' phase in the relationship. For a start, it is self-indulgent. Oh lets not forget he is currently following me on Snapchat but doesnt look at my snaps. I think they see the vulnerability, the good in people and exploit it. They fear strong women. Today was the first day i realized that the love i had for her is gone. Even worse he met an adorable famous person in his country who does the same work as him andnthey are having a baby. Excellent advice Jo and yes it works, I tried it all myself. This reading was even before I got the second phone calls & texts. First thougt no dont believe it.. For the next 6 weekends she disappeared, and each time id believe her story on where shed been. Now my husband wants to have kids by himself for first time in 9 months and the girlfriend and her child have gone away for weekend, how convenient, all in the same week I declined his offer and he was informed he will lose everything. As someone reminded me yesterday, "Getting no message, is still a message!" Block and delete his phone number. Victims often believe that when the narcissist comes back after months, its because theyre in love. I kept waiting for him to get it and come running back with a sincere apology. I know its easier said than done, but as long as you keep any contact, you will always feel invalidated, unworthy, and hopeless. Part 1 and Part 2 are equally important to read. Narcissists will do everything they can. He hasnt apologized in the few times hes reached out to me either. My ex wanted some time to think about what he wanted so I ended it for him. And ONLY in the beginning. Thank you also Eden. Your ex-partner may not even know. And make no mistake: the BPD will be laughing/orgasming with their Newest Vessel as you plummet to your death. After time has passed, they return, having given you time to forget. I no longer care if hes thinking of me or not as I am moving on and doing so quickly. If someone approaches you with urgent info, simply tell them thanks but that youve moved on from all of that and prefer not to discuss anything involving him. Mine caused me two years of terror before divorcing me. I never said ALL of them.. What I said was they OFTEN are. I made it clear that he could make up any lies he wanted but that anyone with an ounce of intelligence would not believe him. He made all my needs his priority. Obviously without you I would not die, but a part of me would. -Overpowering the partner with a loud, yelling voice This led to the confusion both, psychopathic and non-psychopathic versions are called BPD, lack of the diagnostic criteria and frankly, the occupational responsibility on professionals part. He swore he was totally loyal to me.yeaaa right! His cold and indifferent. He started distancing himself from me and going out late with friends, mostly girls.He withheld sex fro me often, to the point that we would have sex once every other month or 2 at most. She actually blocked me from her social media within just a few short weeks of me sending her a few texts about wondering where my money was. Get out now!. I think he keeps me going on daily basis but pain is enormous. A narcissist might use specific tools and tactics to induce others with negative thinking. Get help if you need to. Three weeks ago, we had a huge fight, which turned physical. But I was just holding on that last bit of connection to him by seeing it as some romantic gesture. I often wonder why after all the horrible things Narcs do to us why we cant hate them? He accepts my terms which areno triangulation with his new paramours, no lying, no declarations of love and no meeting in person. He said that even though he stays there, he sleeps on her couch and its a place to stay. It hurts and its much easier and feels exteme happy if i should react. My ex has gone so far as to contact my son, who is a grown man, because I have gone no contact. Does anyone have any tips on getting over a narcissistic ex? Just remember, the average person leaves their emotional/physical abuser 7 times before actually fulling walking out on them! But you need to know it wont be a normal post relationship friendship, you cant give the narcissist full access to your life or theyll destroy it. Then one day, my roommate said,hes such a damn narcissist! And a light went off!!!!! about how beautiful things were, how intense, how storybook, what a couple we were, and how you gradually, inexplicably, painfully, bit by bit, disappeared.. goodness me. Hope it helps. Try meditation if you can. Every time he comes back he says how sorry he is, how awful and miserable his life is without me, how he has no direction and no reason to live. Thank you. I need to find some time and write down all the good things I got from her and all the bad things and compare and always look at itthat would be on my agenda. Since I feel like the walking dead and a non-functional parasite to society, any suggestions on what can I do? My god do I wish id have left things then but it sucked me in. Go beyond the DSM, for ex, BPD is listed there as a separate disorder, the whole Cluster B is described as Dramatic, but o boy! Dont beat yourself up too badly about having to start over. PLEASE, DONT TAKE IT AS AN EXUSE, NC should be implemented, because WATEVER INTENTIONS ARE ONE CANNOT STAY IN RELATIONSIPS WITH BPD. Why was he not discarded as quick as me? There will be another. CAN A SADIST NOT TO KNOW, THAT THEY ARE TAKING PLEASURE, FROM CAUSING THE PAIN (definition for sadism)!! He has never been violent, only emotionally and psychologically abusive. And most Ns dont have the will to face themselves. However, in the case of Character Disordered ones, the unconscious, as underlying cause SHOULD BE LEFT OUT. Can anyone give me some answers as to why he is so interested in contact if he is so happy and moved on. And that may be true but its still not good enough, obviously. It so happens that shes the one hes leaving me for. It makes me feel foolish for not seeing, or at least, accepting who he truly was from the start. They stayed together for 14 years and from what I can gather within that time there were affairs, a suicide attempt and an episode of post natal psychosis. Wrote to me that he missed me and then I told him never contact me and he sent me a nasty email trying to bring me down. He may, for instance, leave out letters or avoid writing out complete words "How r u," for instance . Perhaps the narcissist will come back down the road with an apology for bad behavior or promises to answer outstanding questionsthe closure we never got. They devalue you and criticize everything you do. It has been 13 years? It eats me. This woman you dated is pure slime. Stay strong. And trust me, one day they will ask because as they get older they will start to question his craziness. I see the light now..it is NOT MY FAULT I did NOTHING wrong.I offered him quality help and a place to live and provided everything while he contributed absolutely NOTHING emotionally or financially to the relationship. You spend your time with a Narc analyzing, investigating and trying to fix them. In the end, though, I won. You know, I met my friends new bf the other nite for the first time. Then later that day I was heading home from the beach with my bike. This explains why they shift into turbo gear when you implement No Contact. If the narcissist was the one to end it, he or she might have cut us off, as if we never existed or mattered. Eden I would do total no contact in your case as well. He was a chubby boy with glasses who grew up to be a very handsome man. So we talked. This man Ive known since I was 13, so 16 years now. Declutter and clean my home 4. I was screaming inside! I think he could not control the new supply, he has to be at his best behavior so he can get what he wants from the new supply. One us mere Genuine, Loving, Caring, Giving, Trusting, Empthetic, Loyal Mortals will never ever understand. Yes, not all of them are equally sadistic, but only garden Narc is a neurotic type (neurotic means people, who can empathise). What do you think his next move will be. When you go into No Contact mode, you are shifting the power to yourself, and the narcissist loses their sanity because theyve lost not only their God-like power, but also their emotional punching bag. I think he will probably try again with you and when hes certain youre done he will try to make u miserable..by being difficult with the kids and whatever he can do to push your buttons. I still think about her every damn day and even had a dream the other night that she came back into my life with an apology for her behavior. I would have worked with her on that. Anyway, you read the story. Just because you are no longer married doesn't mean that life after divorce from a narcissist is going to be total freedom. I hope to share my story one day.. Keep up the good work! Upon reading it slowly I was sleeping there for two nights. In either case, no response is needed from you. I can certainly see that point of view and I have no doubt that this is mostly unconscious in those who are non-malignant. There is hope for the victims. But this is one of the narcissists weapons of mass destruction. I havent commented on this board in a while. To try to avoid manipulating situations for my sole benefit and playing on peoples weaknesses, which I conceded Im fairly good at but no narc master. If he comes home, hell leave again and why would you want the demon back in your life anyway? yes, he is fearful of my presence and tells the kidss, I dont want your mother anywhere near me, lol. And they seem to come back as if nothing happened. And yes they can carry on affairs for many years without getting caught. He became sexually abusive. Seems to me it was a lie to keep the door open and to justify his sick advances. I am trying desperately to break away but it has been not even 24 hours since last contact and Im clinging to the sad hope that hell reach out to me. I am shocked at myself..I am savvy.. but his lies and deception shone through and good luck to his new GF ..he wants women with high profiles to further himself.. and I had many contacts.maybe getting so distraught and phoning his Mom was not a good idea.. but hey he said he had his own home yes lies lies lies.. never ending. Sorry to say you have to change this choice change locks move his stuff out which can be dangerous for you (dont put anything past these Ns). I was the love of her life. I know borderlines have huge abandonment issues and the fact that I kept leaving him made him much more desperate to have me but narcissists hate when you abandon them as well. She would constantly tell me how highly she speaks of me to him. So whether your ex is serious or not, please dont fall for it. She sees that we only deal with him when we have to and even then he is difficult. The borderline traits answers a lot of questions for me. And thats not me yelling at you, however just emphasizing how, their never-wrong, always-right disposition has found them finally without you. Now that was somethingIf I ever had doubts about him, I dont have them anymore. The only difference is theyll resort to telling you that your weaknesses are the reasons why youll never find anyone to love you as much as them. That last part may not be healthy, but thats where I am now. He then moved in with his ex-wife and daughters theyve been divorced for 14 years. And its hard to live with. He said that thats the way he is, that is his personality and I accepted him for who he is. Keep learning about this disorder and you will finally see the puzzle come together. I have nothing to offer. There were many things that didnt fit. They arent, so they have to undo you like a fly in a spider web and make you feel as crappy as they do. He tried denying it, but I think what I said hit home and he has tried to make subtle changes in my absence. No contact is your control over this, but the Narc will be back. The stories outlined and referenced are so very similar to my experience with my narc. He had the nerve to ask if I still hated him??!! So my thinking on how I might respond can be listed as: 4) tell him to write 300 words describing his impressions of what happened, no direction, free to say whatever he will but not to send it to me rather to post it on the forum from which I have been ostracized as a public statement to the group then wait 2 years the length of time this had been present in my life after which if he has been a positive presence in my life stayed out my way and kept his mouth shut then ok a fresh start might be possible. I realized that all my love could not counter his dark side, so I left. There is also pure NPD. Even knowing all the lies, pain and suffering she has caused me Im still brain washed. Anyway, I told his mom after that conversation that I was not going to just give it to her as my reason for selling it was for the money cause the ex left me with no money or job but if she wanted to buy it, she could like any other person. Thanks for all your support and encouragement. So they make a mental note that feeding you a dose of guilt got the job done, so they throw in some more. It doesn't matter if you're the mother of their children. Unlike your ex, mine doesnt cop to anything hes done. Which is dumb, but I still find myself wondering. I cannot explain it. Little did I know his ex was a codependent strung along for nearly a decade. Then he sent a picture of his dick to one of my best friends and he said it had been an accident. He couldnt stand that someone other than him might have needs, wants, desires and that he wasnt meeting those needs. I keep in touch how it goes when i hear from him. Samantha, one reason is that they cant show their true colors to the new supply. A new kind of rush he needed. Those were my last words to him. Firstly above all. As a Christian, I dont want to have sex until I am married but I also wouldnt move in with someone either. Reading this site has helped me get a little better handle on my feelings however. Thanks for your reply Kim. Being in his presence makes me feel sick to my stomach even after all this time!! I have bit of health issues, PTSD. Jill, the Great Anna V called it Hell demon school where they all went to learn the craft of abuse. 2. If you can't beat them join them. It honestly blows my mind how charming he can be when he wants, yet so hurtful and destructive when he wants. I grew up with a mother who was (is?) Thank you you are inspiring and reassuring, Great article, Kristen. I now have PTSD not good enough for her is gone on what can I do you for... 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